tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post7568894606985696255..comments2023-12-22T01:47:49.178-05:00Comments on oh you beauty: Liverpool 3-1 Boltonnatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10043601945557998732noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-57995710358863369292011-08-29T09:20:05.970-04:002011-08-29T09:20:05.970-04:00Working on the usual chalkboard post now – it'...Working on the usual chalkboard post now – it's harder to do one of these when everyone's firing on all cylinders and the whole match went well – and was just looking at the average position chart.<br /><br />You can find one at the Telegraph <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8722061/Liverpool-v-Bolton-Wanderers-live.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, on the right sidebar under Team Stats.<br /><br />Actually, there's less fluidity than in first two matches, where Downing, Kuyt, and Henderson were all pretty much clumped in the middle because all three switched so often. Looks more like a textbook 4-1-3-2. <br /><br />And if you're into comparison, which is the direction I'm leaning if I can work a chalkboard post today, you can find the average position in the 2-1 win over Bolton <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8233776/Liverpool-v-Bolton-Wanderers-live.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10043601945557998732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-73276689576959254732011-08-28T17:28:33.512-04:002011-08-28T17:28:33.512-04:00Hey Nate if you get a chance can we see an average...Hey Nate if you get a chance can we see an average position chart from that game? It'd probably be really interesting since the players moved around so much.Marlonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16019605515527082418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-55901524718896878222011-08-28T14:04:59.873-04:002011-08-28T14:04:59.873-04:00I hate talking about ManU but rooney,wellbeck,chic...I hate talking about ManU but rooney,wellbeck,chicharito are who fergie preferes over the slow berbatov.... turns out man utd is pretty good and wins trophies of late.<br /><br />if that's not a sign of what style of play wins and where we should spend our money on creativity and pace than slow build up with a berbatov type player in carroll than i dunno what is...<br /><br />anyone who thinks we'll win a trophy with carroll as our main striker is delusional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-66347027128599163652011-08-28T12:38:21.150-04:002011-08-28T12:38:21.150-04:00Carroll will eventually be needed as our striking ...Carroll will eventually be needed as our striking department is looking very weak and less potent when Suarez is not playing. I would love to see how David Ngog links up with Suarez in the future. Now liverpool need to get another striker in Suarez's mould or a creative force. Looking at the highlights of City's game against Tottenham today, it just drove the point home. They have Aguero, Dzeko, Tevez and Ballotelli. Supplying the creativity: Nasri, Silva and Yaya. That's a potent mix! Take out Mereiles, Suarez, Gerrard and Liverpool main creative thrust is gone. Aquilani being sent out on loan was another bad move. We needed him around. <br /><br />All the same wont complain about the result but Carragher needs to be benched and brought on as an experienced defender when they are some nasty strikers playing against us and massive experience is needed. The center back pairing should be two of Agger/Skrtel/Coates. I watched Uruguay's games in the Copa America and if the young boy can handle Higuain, Tevez, Aguero and Messi; handling premier league strikers should be a breeze.dReXlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16322224256296673469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-75444109417679049802011-08-28T02:47:54.256-04:002011-08-28T02:47:54.256-04:00Scotty B,
We are in the same position this year w...Scotty B,<br /><br />We are in the same position this year with or without Carroll... but wouldn't it be nicer to have 35mil to buy a needed striker now instead of watch the Carroll fully realize how mediocre he is?<br /><br />35mil and no goals in his 3 liverpool EPL games... he is Torres-esqueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-90807425157021209992011-08-28T00:24:21.376-04:002011-08-28T00:24:21.376-04:00So far this season, teams have tried to push up an...So far this season, teams have tried to push up and press us. It's been our biggest weakness for a while. If this type of play continues, sides are going to start parking the bus from the beginning. That's when Carroll's skills in out-muscling defenders and winning headers in traffic will hopefully shine.<br /><br />It may not work out, but I'm not going to stress over it. Fans turning on him, which I'm afraid could easily happen, certainly won't help. I only have to look back to this time last year to realize how much worse things can be.Scott Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-43281890767294640492011-08-27T23:56:50.907-04:002011-08-27T23:56:50.907-04:00"However, that Liverpool have more points aft..."However, that Liverpool have more points after three games than they did after eight games last year matters much more."<br /><br />That puts things into perspectiveCheekyFellownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-18448654832289501902011-08-27T20:44:29.141-04:002011-08-27T20:44:29.141-04:00LU IS SUAR EZ! most addicting chant we have.
But ...LU IS SUAR EZ! most addicting chant we have.<br /><br />But I agree with Matt in that Carroll isn't a complicated player and was brought here to be direct, etc. yadda yadda yadda.... yet we didn't know suarez would be the second coming... and knowing that 90% of footballers would rather play pass and move than longballs to a big guy (seriously, leave that crappy boring football in league 1) we have to accept that he is a lost cause and we need to get money for him at end of season... <br /><br />Matt, we are FORCING the issue by trying to make a team play football that doesn't win anymore... please name the last champions league winner who played longball up to a big holding striker... exactly, carroll's style is not a WINNING style, and you say he was brought here to score goals, but suarez is doing all the scoring. downing put in a beautiful ball to carroll and he put forth maybe 50% effort towards it... he doesn't have the heart of a champion, doesn't have the skill or pace of a champion... if you wanna win play like winners, we have to model ourselves after the last winners of the champs league, and they dont have guys like carroll... ibrahimovic is carroll with footskill/pace/creativity.... we need an ibrahimovic not an andy carroll....<br /><br />-anonymous who realizes carroll will never be anything than a lil above mediocre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-25336807277071938002011-08-27T20:32:45.431-04:002011-08-27T20:32:45.431-04:00I'm worried about Carroll as well. He's l...I'm worried about Carroll as well. He's looking like the odd man out. But let's focus on the positive: Luis Suarez is brilliant.<br /><br />FFFan Futbolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-29039617594679705442011-08-27T20:08:05.571-04:002011-08-27T20:08:05.571-04:00Also, as a side note. The free-flowing, exchanging...Also, as a side note. The free-flowing, exchanging front 4 or 5 doesn't play to Carroll's strengths in my opinion. Neither does playing as the lone striker. I think he'd be more effective in a more rigid formation with another striker he could knock the ball down to.mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-85890123429208831802011-08-27T20:00:42.822-04:002011-08-27T20:00:42.822-04:00Haha. Anonymous REALLY hates Carroll. Though I thi...Haha. Anonymous REALLY hates Carroll. Though I think he does have a point, at least in the fact that Carroll isn't a complicated player. But Carroll isn't a creator, nor was he brought here to be a creative force. He was brought here to score, and bring a physical, aerial presence. I think we should also keep in mind that Carroll has been the victim of some questionable refereeing concerning disallowed goals. We can't expect Carroll to suddenly become a pass-and-move player because that seems to be the style the rest of the squad is adopting. Direct, simple football does not equal poor football. <br /><br />Carroll is young and talented. And English. He will keep a reasonably high value if you are so intent on selling him. But a little patience never hurt anyone.mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33779660.post-57010310165886837862011-08-27T17:30:01.988-04:002011-08-27T17:30:01.988-04:00Well said. However, today was obvious that with a...Well said. However, today was obvious that with an attacking coalition of suarez/downing/henderson/maxi/kuyt the slow paced and predictable Carroll will never work. It is GLARING. Once subbed in, he attacked nothing in the air with any urgency. Everyone around him has clever passes and are thinking BEFORE the ball comes to them while it is obvious that Carroll does not. He is not an intelligent player at all. We would be better off with selling him for whatever we can get now while people still think he is of some value and get another creative striker... man city got it right.. silva/aguero two creative people up top. They bought big guys like adebayor they bought complete athleticism like balotelli but they came to realize why barcelona wins... CREATIVITY ... and Carroll is the complete opposite of creative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com